INDIGO DYEING : Questions & Answers
Some of the questions on this page are specific to indigo dyeing using our Indigo & Shibori Natural Dye Kit, but many are applicable to indigo dyeing more broadly!
Your dye kit comes complete with a load of supplies and materials that you can use to make designs on fabrics. Some parts of the process are complex and we may not have had room in the printed instructions included to go in depth.
If you have a question that has not yet been answered to your satisfaction, ask away!
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The following is an index list of each Question and Answer title, click on the title to read the corresponding Q&A, or simply use search terms in the search box above to see if your question has been answered!
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DIP TECHNIQUE
- Jul 26, 2023 Avoiding Fading
- Jul 26, 2023 Dipping Resist Pieces
- Jul 26, 2023 Maintaining Your Whites While Rinsing
- Jul 25, 2023 Dyeing Over Multiple Days
- Jul 25, 2023 Avoiding Sediment
- Jul 25, 2023 How Sediment Affects Your Dyeing and the Importance of Proper Rinsing
- Jul 25, 2023 Tips for Using Rice Paste in a Ferrous Vat
- Jul 25, 2023 Tips for Getting the Darkest Blues
- Jul 25, 2023 Suggestions for Uneven Coloration
- Jul 25, 2023 Rinsing Stencil Print Between Dips
- Jul 25, 2023 Number of Dips for Different Shades of Indigo
- Jul 20, 2023 Avoiding Sediment in the Ferrous Indigo Vat
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DYE GARDEN QUESTIONS
- Jul 26, 2023 Starting Indigo Seeds Indoors Versus Outdoors
- Jul 25, 2023 When to Plant Indigo Seeds
- Jul 25, 2023 Indigo Seed Propagation
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GENERAL INDIGO DYEING QUESTIONS
- Jul 26, 2023 Calculating Amount of Indigo Needed
- Jul 25, 2023 Dyeing Protein Fibers in a Natural Indigo Vat
- Jul 25, 2023 Dyeing Stretch Fabric with Natural Indigo
- Jul 25, 2023 Ferrous Vat Longevity
- Jul 25, 2023 Shelf Life of Natural Indigo and “Pasting-Up” Your Powder
- Jul 25, 2023 Toxicity of Indigo and Indigo Dyeing
- Jul 25, 2023 Indigo and Splatter Dyeing
- Jul 25, 2023 Indigo and Cotton Velveteen
- Jul 25, 2023 Indigo and Polyester
- Jul 25, 2023 Over-dyeing with Indigo
- Jul 25, 2023 Is Indigo Dye Okay for Sensitive Skin, Is it Safe Enough to use on Baby Clothes?
- Jul 25, 2023 Light and Pale Shades of Indigo
- Jul 25, 2023 Fixing Indigo Onto Fabric
- Jul 25, 2023 Materials and Fabrics Suitable for Indigo Dyeing
- Jul 25, 2023 Disposing of a Ferrous Indigo Vat
- Jul 25, 2023 Large Container e.g. Trash Can Vat
- Jul 20, 2023 Dye Vat Capacity
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INDIGO LEAF EXTRACTION
- Jul 25, 2023 Making a Ferrous Vat with Fresh Indigo Leaves
- Jul 25, 2023 Clarification on Indigo Extraction
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INDIGO VAT TIPS & TROUBLESHOOTING
- Jul 26, 2023 Is the Fermentation Vat the Best Vat?
- Jul 26, 2023 Indigo Vat Troubleshooting: No Longer an Odor
- Jul 26, 2023 Indigo Vat Troubleshooting: Dark Blue Vat
- Jul 26, 2023 Indigo Vat Troubleshooting: Greenish Tint
- Jul 26, 2023 Avoiding Fading
- Jul 26, 2023 Waiting 24 Hours Between Mixing and Using Your Indigo Vat
- Jul 26, 2023 Quantity of Indigo Paste in a Vat
- Jul 26, 2023 Making a Long Term Vat
- Jul 25, 2023 Indigo Flower Comes and Goes
- Jul 25, 2023 Using Pencil to Make Marks on Fabric - Does Graphite Affect the Vat?
- Jul 25, 2023 Under-Reduced Fructose Vat
- Jul 25, 2023 Troubleshooting a Different Vat Recipe
- Jul 25, 2023 Avoiding Sediment
- Jul 25, 2023 Indigo Vat Troubleshooting: Recipe Quantities for a Large Vat
- Jul 25, 2023 Sharpening Your Vat
- Jul 25, 2023 Stirring Your Vat
- Jul 25, 2023 Adding More Pigment to a Fresh Leaf Extraction Vat
- Jul 25, 2023 Making a Vat for Pale Dyeing
- Jul 25, 2023 Sizing Up Your Vat
- Jul 25, 2023 Indigo Vat Troubleshooting: Lye and Hydrosulfite
- Jul 25, 2023 Recipe for Pickling Lime and Fructose Vat
- Jul 25, 2023 Thoughts on Using Soda Ash and Spectralite Instead of Iron and Lime in Making a Dye Vat
- Jul 25, 2023 Giving Your Vat Enough Time to Set Up
- Jul 25, 2023 Switching Reducing Agent and pH Combo When Sharpening Your Vat
- Jul 25, 2023 Vat Temperature
- Jul 25, 2023 Precision of pH for Ferrous and Fructose Vats and Indicators of Under or Over Reduction
- Jul 25, 2023 Forms of Indigo that Work in a Ferrous Vat Recipe
- Jul 25, 2023 Indigo Vat Troubleshooting: Sludge and Sediment
- Jul 25, 2023 Indigo Vat Diagnosis: Vat Color, Flower, and pH
- Jul 25, 2023 Iron Vat Temperature
- Jul 25, 2023 Dissolving Lime in an Indigo Vat
- Jul 25, 2023 Reviving a spoiled or 'oxidized' indigo dye vat
- Jul 25, 2023 Mixing and Combining New Vat Ingredients with Old or Spent Vats
- Jul 25, 2023 Indigo Vat Mixing Temperature
- Jul 25, 2023 Weak Vat, Old Vat and Vat Health Restoration
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PRE AND POST-DYE TREATMENTS & TIPS
- Jul 26, 2023 Preventing Crocking and Dyeing Large Fabrics Like Bedding
- Jul 26, 2023 Avoiding Fading
- Jul 26, 2023 Rinsing in Still Versus Running Water
- Jul 25, 2023 How Sediment Affects Your Dyeing and the Importance of Proper Rinsing
- Jul 25, 2023 Troubleshooting Strange Fading Patterns and Discoloration
- Jul 25, 2023 Suggestions for Uneven Coloration
- Jul 25, 2023 Fabric Drying Stiff and Crispy Post-Dyeing
- Jul 25, 2023 Indigo Post-Dye Rinse: Purposes and Options
- Jul 25, 2023 Protecting Your Indigo-Dyed Pieces From Fading: Proper Scouring and Soy Milk Treatment
- Jul 25, 2023 Sun Fading of Indigo
- Jul 20, 2023 Best Way to Dry Indigo Dye
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QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR INDIGO & SHIBORI DYE KIT
- Jul 26, 2023 Waiting 24 Hours Between Mixing and Using Your Indigo Vat
- Jul 25, 2023 Scaling Down Vat Size
- Jul 25, 2023 How Much Fabric Will the Natural Indigo & Shibori Dye Kit Dye?
- Jul 25, 2023 Ferrous Vat Longevity
- Jul 25, 2023 Components in the Natural Indigo & Shibori Dye Kit
- Jul 25, 2023 Indigo Form in the Natural Dye Kit
- Jul 25, 2023 Indigo Kit and Dyeing Large Items
- Jul 25, 2023 Light and Pale Shades of Indigo
- Jul 25, 2023 Scent of Natural Indigo
- Jul 20, 2023 Dye Vat Capacity
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RICE PASTE
- Jul 26, 2023 Dipping Resist Pieces
- Jul 26, 2023 Pastry Cones for Applying Rice Paste Resist
- Jul 26, 2023 Indigo Resist Screen Printing
- Jul 26, 2023 Rice Paste Resist Longevity
- Jul 26, 2023 Destabilized AKA De-Fatted Bran in Rice Paste Resist
- Jul 25, 2023 Tips for Using Rice Paste in a Ferrous Vat
- Jul 25, 2023 Rinsing Stencil Print Between Dips
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TIPS FOR VARIOUS DYE PROJECTS
- Jul 26, 2023 Preventing Crocking and Dyeing Large Fabrics Like Bedding
- Jul 26, 2023 Using Fresh Goldenrod Leaves to Make a Paintable Dye Pigment
- Jul 26, 2023 Type of Wood for Making Block Prints
- Jul 26, 2023 Mordant Recipe: Block vs Screen Printing
- Jul 26, 2023 Making a Stamp Pad
- Jul 26, 2023 Dyeing with Fresh Plants
- Jul 26, 2023 Indigo Resist Screen Printing
- Jul 26, 2023 Destabilized AKA De-Fatted Bran in Rice Paste Resist
- Jul 25, 2023 Dipping Metal in my Vat
- Jul 25, 2023 Using Natural Indigo Paste
- Jul 25, 2023 Dyeing Vegetable Tanned Leather
- Jul 25, 2023 Tips for Using Rice Paste in a Ferrous Vat
- Jul 25, 2023 Dyeing Paper
- Jul 25, 2023 Chalk and Cheesecloth Clarification in Mordant and Block Printing
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USING MORDANTS
- Jul 26, 2023 Mixing Mordant
- Jul 26, 2023 Mordant Recipe: Block vs Screen Printing
- Jul 26, 2023 Diluting Mordant Paste
- Jul 25, 2023 Chalk and Cheesecloth Clarification in Mordant and Block Printing
Waiting 24 Hours Between Mixing and Using Your Indigo Vat
Q: I have a question about the 24 hour waiting period from mixing the ingredients to using the vat. Could you tell me a little bit more about that. Is it necessary? I've used the Jacquard (synthetic) product and was able to use immediately after mixing.
A: In a word, yes. The wait is necessary. There is a big difference between the pre-reduced synthetic indigo and the natural indigo contained in the kit. The synthetic ingredients have already been modified to dissolve in water whereas the indigo in my kit does not dissolve in water. The 24 hour period allows the indigo to a) dissolve and b) become properly reduced (able to transfer onto fabric) and also c) the iron and lime in my kit (the activating ingredients) need time to properly combine. If you dye too soon, you'll get very pale blues and run the risk of staining the fabric brown/sludgy with the iron. If you wait the 24 hours, you'll get great color transfer and no staining.
Scaling Down Vat Size
Q: I purchased your indigo kit and am wondering if there is a way to do a half batch or a third of a batch. I'm trying to dye very small quantities of fabric and don't want to waste any dye.
A: Sure, no problem. You can just scale all of the quantities of water, indigo, lime, and iron in the instructions by an equal amount to make a smaller vat. If you can, use a tall deep container for your partial vat. That will work better than a shallow broad container.
How Much Fabric Will the Natural Indigo & Shibori Dye Kit Dye?
Q: Can you tell me approximately how much fabric one of your Natural Indigo & Shibori Dye Kits will dye?
A: A safe, loose estimate is 10-12 shirt sized garments to a dark shade of indigo. That said, the amount of fabric you can dye with this kit varies widely depending on how thick the fabric is, how dark you dye it, how much of the piece is blue vs white and how well you’re able to maintain the vat health!
Ferrous Vat Longevity
Q: I just purchased one of your Natural Indigo & Shibori Dye Kits. Once I create my indigo vat, do I have to use it right away or does it last for a while?
A: Your vat will last for weeks, once mixed up, if never used. The key to longevity of a ferrous vat is to minimize its contact with air. You should always keep it tightly lidded when it is not in use. And, when you're using the vat, make EVERY EFFORT to not slosh, splash, or drip back into the vat as that will oxidize your vat and leave the indigo pigment unable to bind to fabric. The kit is designed so that the pigment and the ingredients that activate it, should exhaust themselves at the same time.
Once you begin using your vat and it starts to lose potency, you can always rejuvenate it. I go in depth on the process of sharpening your vat on my page about indigo vat basics.
Components in the Natural Indigo & Shibori Dye Kit
Q: What is the component/powder used as a reducing agent in your Natural Indigo & Shibori Dye Kit? How is it different from base? What is the base that can be used?
A: The reducing agent for the vat in the kit is actually the combination of the Ferrous Sulfate and the Slaked Lime. Together they form a molecule which modifies the indigo molecule and causes it to become able to integrate and adhere to fabric. Both ingredients - plus the indigo - are necessary for the reaction to happen.
The base (or basic molecule) in the kit is the calcium hydroxide AKA Slaked Lime. In water, this molecule dissolves and separates into calcium and hydroxide ions, effectively raising the pH (alkalinity) of the liquid. Slaked lime is the appropriate base to pair with ferrous sulfate to create a vat. Do not replace with another base as the reaction will not produce the desired result of properly reducing the indigo molecule.
Indigo Form in the Natural Dye Kit
Q: Is the indigo in your Indigo & Shibori Natural Dye Kit in powder form or paste form? Is it pre-reduced?
A: The indigo itself is in a paste slurry form that has never been dried, so there is no challenge (as there is with fully dried indigo) in getting it hydrated.
It is not pre-reduced which means it needs to be mixed with two other ingredients (included in the kit) that activate the indigo pigment into an indigo dye.
Indigo Kit and Dyeing Large Items
Q: I bought your Indigo & Shibori Natural Dye Kit. Would it work to dye a blanket or other large item?
A: The kit certainly has the ability to dye large items, but it is designed for creating repeat patterns on smaller (or bundled) pieces of fabric by folding the pieces into smaller shapes and dipping those as opposed to over-dyeing large pieces. All-over dyed pieces will tend to be mottled and uneven in the color uptake when dyed in a relatively small amount of liquid like the 5 gallons the kit is designed to produce. When dyeing large items I prefer to dye in vats that are 25-50 gallons and typically larger indigo-dyed items with all-over coverage (like jeans) are dyed in the yarn and then woven. Large items are rarely dyed in natural indigo vats because of the challenge.
Light and Pale Shades of Indigo
Q: What is your recommended amount of indigo for a five gallon vat if I wanted a pale blue, not a dark blue?
A: The kit comes with a bottle containing 50g of indigo extract. This is plenty to make a very saturated blue dye achievable with only a half dozen dips or so. If you would like a paler blue, it is best to get there with the same number of dips, though each dip will only be a baby step toward deep indigo as opposed to using the full strength of the vat. So, you can mix up the vat as normal (same amount of water, all the iron, all the lime) and simply add 1/4 of the indigo. This will produce a weak vat. When you layer many dips in this vat, you'll get some wondrously rich pale blues. You can save the indigo for later addition or for another vat.
Scent of Natural Indigo
A: A natural indigo vat has a unique smell somewhere between earthy, musty, smoky with a hint of grass and manure!
The indigo pigment that comes in your bottle is actually a fermented extract from a plant. As a result, different seasons and batches of indigo, as well as indigo from other locations will have varying smells. Different vat preparations also create different smells and believe it or not, this vat style, known as the iron vat, has the least smell!
After your dyed goods are rinsed in the citric acid solution and washed, the smell fades.
Dye Vat Capacity
Q: The kit indicates the vat can manage about 5 pounds of items. Can you tell me if that number changes if you are dipping items for longer or more times? So if you dipped 5 pounds of tea towels (for example) 3 times each, would you plan to dye 2 1/2 pounds of tea towels, if you were going to dip them 6 times each?
A: You’ve got it. The darker you dye your items the less total weight the vat can accommodate. Also, the lighter weight your fabric, the less weight the vat can dye. Also, how well you treat your vat contributes to how much material you can push through it. Also, if you tie your pieces up into small bundles so only the surface gets dyed, you can dye more total weight (with the same amount of surface area). The 5lb measurement is really subjective!
Lightweight fabric has more surface area relative to the total weight of the fabric so actually absorbs more indigo per pound than a thick, heavy weight fabric (which has a much smaller surface area). Thin fabrics can be very taxing on a vat, so the yield per weight numbers don’t really apply to to them. The 5lb weight notation on the kit was initially tested using a medium shade of blue, dyed with shibori patterning that was about 50/50 indigo coverage to undyed fabric on medium weight cotton jersey.